Hi vickie, Sorry that I sounded like an irrate and misunderstood tuber with a strong sense of injustice,

to be honest don't know,or purchase graphics from any. Just felt I had to support those small minority of legit ones. I had the visions of a network of blackmarket tubers trying to offload their illicit goods.
I prefer to work with sketches and paint effects which i am trying to master in digital format. I have extracted 'real things' for my scrapbooking but they have been from my own photos and scans and mainly plain ribbons, flowers etc.
Alison