Where can I get images for use in design? - Page 3

Helen Williams · 05-03-10, 05:03 PM

Hiya

What a minefield, thank you for explaining what a tube is lol, i was just about to ask.....so if i just remove the background from a flower, the flower becomes the tube?

Is it only png files then that are tubes?

Helen

Vicki Avcin · 05-03-10, 11:09 PM

Yes if you remove all but the flower then the flower is a 'tube'.

Yes .png is the way to save tubes with the transparent background...then its able to be opened in any graphics program

Janet Briggs · 06-03-10, 02:16 AM

Hi Barbara
Yes you've opened up a can of worms that has been opened many times on CUP before LOL.

Best advice I can give is....
ALWAYS get written permission from the site, artist or photographer to cover yourself.
It only takes a minute to email them and clarify your intended usage and get their permission.
As Carol said, you must indicate that your intended usage is in a digital format (as many stock photo sites, don't allow this) and that you require CU4CU usage, as CUP customers may be making money from the sheets purchased.
I've found that multi vendor scrapbooking sites are the most confusing to buy from, because CU means different things on different sites and even different things to individual artists from the same site! I've found the best way round this, is to locate the individual artists personal site or blog and email them directly.
One multi vendor scrapbook site, even gave out incorrect info. to a CUP designer re. usage allowed by one of the artists images displayed on their site.... So do be careful.

Alison Sloan · 07-03-10, 10:46 AM

quote; There are a lot of sites out there too that simply 'tube' others work.
Tubing is taking the background out of an image so you are left with one item. ie......you have a picture with a forest scene, in that scene there is a deer drinking out of the stream that flows across the bottom of the picture. You want to 'tube' the deer.......so you take out all the background and the stream so the only thing left is the deer......the tube!!
Tubers have no claim to anything. Quite possibly they've done it illegally too as if they'd read the artists TOU, they'd have read that you cannot rip the image apart!! Some seem to think because they've tubed it, they own it!! Not so. ; quote

Hi Vickie,

You have given lots of sound advice about the copyright regulations, but I think your description of tubes and tubers is maybe a bit harsh.

I am sure there are lots of tubers that use legitimate sources for their work, and to group them all in such a way is a bit prejuditial.

Also many digital scrapbook designers use extracted items as part of their kits and most take the copyright legislation very seriously.

I know there are a lot of ignorant or unscruplous people out there and you should be very careful where you obtain your graphics, but your comments did seem to paint all Tubers are dubious characters.

Alison

Vicki Avcin · 07-03-10, 01:42 PM

Sorry if you got that impression that I mean a 'blanket coverage on tubers' , but going back years there were tubers that tubed anything and everything they could get their hands on.
A lot of artists began withdrawing permissions for any of their work to be used at all. There were a few who were OK with it and they even began making their own tubes.

Not all tubers do things illegally, but the 'good ones' are in the minority sadly.
In the past 2 days one of our members in my group has managed to find 4 'tube' sites that have pages and pages of images that have been tubed.
They openly state they have 'tubed' images from magazines, cards, websites, and anywhere they saw something that they though could be used!!!!!
Then they have the hide to say please credit with my copyright!!!!!!
Those people give all the rest a bad reputation sadly.

Like I stated......Tuber's cannot claim any credit to the images at all.

Alison...If you are one of the legit ones........then thats great

but there are way too many out there that aren't legit and don't do things above board.
I know theres a few out there that do play 'by the rules'.

Janet.....one forum for scrappers tried to start a 'code' for all scrapping sites as to what each one meant with all their 'jargon'......to try and get it pretty much all the same everywhere.....sadly it didn't work.....but I so agree with all the different 'meanings' lol

Alison Sloan · 07-03-10, 05:06 PM

Hi vickie, Sorry that I sounded like an irrate and misunderstood tuber with a strong sense of injustice,

to be honest don't know,or purchase graphics from any. Just felt I had to support those small minority of legit ones. I had the visions of a network of blackmarket tubers trying to offload their illicit goods.

I prefer to work with sketches and paint effects which i am trying to master in digital format. I have extracted 'real things' for my scrapbooking but they have been from my own photos and scans and mainly plain ribbons, flowers etc.

Alison

Vicki Avcin · 08-03-10, 02:19 AM

Quote:

I had the visions of a network of blackmarket tubers trying to offload their illicit goods.

Believe it or not.......there ARE

For years they have operated through Yahoo groups. And to this day they still do.

No amount of complaining to yahoo over the years has done anything to stop it either. When MSN had their groups, at least if the groups distributing illegal tubes were reported MSN would shut them down. Mind you they usually sprung up again within a week under a different group name similar to the previous one. But because yahoo groups are all done via email, its a lot harder to police as they don't have a 'site' where they put the images.
And because its all done by email, its a lot harder to know and see whats in these groups without joining them, so a lot go unnoticed.
And sadly some people just don't want to know about whats legal and whats not. They just laugh at you. Although I know a couple of people who did take group owners to courts after having their things shared on these sites and won!!!

Alison Sloan · 08-03-10, 03:01 AM

hi Vickie, Thanks for the info, this is a really interesting thread. It is info that you don't happen upon and I'm glad you posted it.

Alison

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